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So i am looking into universities and long story short; I am poor. I live in a state with garbage universities and I have not been able to get a. One would think that if you paid the non-LDS tuition, they would move on and take the money to make up for the Tithe money collected from LDS members. Another change, dating back to March of , allows ex-Mormons or others The non-Mormon students pay two times more tuition than a.
It is a foreseeable consequence that one brings upon oneself. This is a consequence that is clearly articulated by the university and is agreed to by all who commit to studying here. If one choses to leave the Church, one forfeits the privilege of studying at BYU. Now that may seem to be discriminatory and, in fact, it discriminates against former members of the Church. But your implication is that the discrimination is motivated by prejudice unjustified dislike because of group membership and that it persecutes the person who leaves the Church, and that is not the case.
To say that one is being persecuted for their beliefs when they choose to leave the Church by having to leave BYU is like saying that a Democrat is being persecuted by having to leave his or her employment for the Democratic party when they convert to Republican ideology [editors note: What is clear is that the policy it transparent: If one chooses to leave the Church, one forfeits the privilege of attending BYU. You say that you are willing to pay non-LDS tuition and abide by university standards, the same as non-LDS students who have never been members of the Church.
The policy does not provide for this. You also say that transferring to another university is not an option, but this is absolutely not true. It may be inconvenient, but it is not impossible. If fact, it it the ethical, honorable thing to do.
To be enrolled at BYU, one has to obtain ecclesiastical endorsement. As an endowed member of the Church, this means espousing beliefs that you cannot espouse. Therefore, you must be dishonest to obtain the endorsement. That is a violation of the honor code. You justify this dishonesty by saying that the eligibility policy is discriminatory, but the university has done nothing to discriminate against you.
You have made a decision to disqualify yourself from eligibility, knowing the consequence of your actions.
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Now you are perpetrating a fraud on the university by lying to stay in school for reasons of convenience, not principle. This may not be considered sacred funds to you, but it is to the Church and to the members who donate it.
How many of those members do you suppose have children whose dream it was to go to BYU, but who were not admitted?
The supposition that others join the Church to get the tuition benefit is irrelevant. We are talking about you. What are you going to do in your situation? It seems to me that the honorable thing to do would be to conduct yourself honestly and take the consequences of your decisions. If you want to leave the Church, then be prepared to leave the university. The inconvenience of transferring and the belief that a lot of other people are doing unethical things and not being expelled are poor excuses for your own unethical and dishonest behavior.
Attendance at BYU is a privilege, not a right. Your unwillingness to do so now constitutes an ethical breech that is unjustifiable. No one coerced you to apply to BYU. No one is coercing you to stay if you cannot abide by the honor code. To characterize the honor code as coercing you to do things you feel uncomfortable with is disingenuous. The university is not punishing you.
Tue, 5 Apr Mormon June 11th, at I also offer a potential solution to its obvious unfairness. Please check it out.
I also include a meme that should spark a little humor into your situation. Bone January 27th, at Amber July 7th, at 2: How to I get in in touch with someone who feels the same? What do I do? Sophie September 20th, at 8: This is my first semester here and I am experiencing a similar situation.
Arthur September 29th, at 3: My email is adaonc live. Sisi July 3rd, at 9: Why did you apply if you expected to be surrounded by non-LDS students?
Joe January 9th, at 8: One would think that if you paid the non-LDS tuition, they would move on and take the money to make up for the Tithe money collected from LDS members. During her last semester of senior year, she stayed out past the 10 PM curfew one day because her part-time employer had her work late. They threatened to not graduate her, and grounded her to campus for 3 months. And, as you can see, I am not LDS. The Prof is correct. College is a privilege, not a right.
Dialogue is always possible, but not flagrant, outright disobedience. OF course, none of you will see it this way.
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You give up, to gain something. I need say no more, to point out to what a nadir this nation has fallen. I hope you can grasp this reality, but I personally doubt it.
Many end up joining the church. Bateman about some of the non-LDS students' concerns. He gave us everything we asked for. The school was worried about the number of non-LDS athletes being suspended for Honor Code violations.
Paul Warner, who is LDS, was appointed to act as a chaplain for athletic teams. NLSA has about 60 members and started a "big brother" program, pairing seniors with freshmen to help the younger students acclimate to BYU's lifestyle.
It holds activities like barbecues and trips to the bowling alley.
Religious freedom: What's BYU life like for non-LDS professors, students?
One student, a woman from El Salvador, was baptized recently. I've found most students to be quite interested and attentive.
Many of these students are not Christians. Reasons why non-LDS students attend BYU in the first place include its relatively inexpensive tuition and its academic reputation. BYU is also attractive to students who share LDS beliefs in abstaining from alcohol, tobacco and sex out of wedlock. Religious affiliation "is not even a factor that is considered" in the admittance process, says Jeff Tanner, associate dean of admissions and records.
If a student agrees to abide by the Honor Code and meets academic requirements, they are candidates for admittance. We have a much larger pool of members. It's nice to have heterogeneity in your student body. Non-LDS students come with a different perspective. They look at things in a different way. It adds a lot to classroom discussions.
Like students, faculty members must agree to abide by the school's Honor Code. In "Finding God at BYU," Monroe, the only full-time faculty member who is Baptist, writes, "I am convinced that, had I stayed in Kentucky, the focus of my spiritual life would not have been as clear as it is today.