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If These Walls Could Talk 2 is a television film in the United States, broadcast on HBO. The house is now inhabited by Fran (Sharon Stone) and Kal (Ellen DeGeneres), a couple hoping to have a baby together. They hope to get a sperm. If These Walls Could Talk 2 Sharon Stone & Ellen DeGeneres Movie Ellen . into wife Portia de Rossi as couple enjoy a romantic date night Down Under. Ellen. Sharon Stone will be joining us in a little while. She's on the way over. With us now are Ellen DeGeneres and Anne Heche. Anne directed and.
I mean, it's just crazy how But the union -- the main reason you fight for it is not just the recognition. You want the state to pay health benefits to It's to have an equal right. I mean, private companies do it now. Time Warner does it. It's just not being treated as a second class citizen. That's all it is, is just how would you want to be treated? It's just because of our love that we're being condemned or Do you want to marry?
Is that one of the things you want to have the right to go down to City Hall as any two people, man and woman, could do? As anybody else is able to do. I mean, consciously we are married. She is my wife. I am her wife. But that we can't go and do what every other single individual in this country and in this world can do is ludicrous to us. And until that right is allowed to us As you well know, you've lived in this society long enough to know that the hardest thing to do is change.
People have accepted a lot of change. You talk about accepting change. It's hard for someone very focused, very nice, who cares about people and would favor the health benefits to say, "OK, do you take this woman to be your wife?
Do you take this woman to be your wife? When you're not used to hearing a certain language, it's frightening to people. And I think that's what we're trying to do in these piece "If These Walls Could Talk" is to put a face to something that people fear. And when you fear something, you tend to either attack it or hate it, or don't even want to -- I mean, watch this piece. When you watch Vanessa Redgrave lose the woman that she loves and what she goes through when she loses her home.
We had to go to our attorney and get certain rights so that if something happened to Anne, I would be able to go and be with her because legally I don't have that right. And we'll be joined by Sharon Stone as well.
Is she all right? Did you find her? Are you any relation of hers, ma'am? No, I'm a friend. I'm a very good friend. Does she have any family?
Please would you tell me if something is wrong? Miss Henley ph passed away. We're so sorry, ma'am. When did it happen? Why didn't someone tell me?
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I was there waiting. It would have to be a guess. But why do you think people fear you? They fear a couple. It is -- I don't know -- Jane Anderson, who is the director of the first piece that Vanessa Redgrave is in said something so clearly to me the other day at a press junket.
And she said, "Discrimination is a lack of familiarity. And I think that's what it is. When you're not familiar with something, you fear it. When you don't understand it, you fear it. And part of what we're trying to do is bring a familiarity and so that there is not a fear.
And partly, I think that's it. I don't get it. I don't get some things too. I don't hate the things that I don't get. I just don't get them. Because one of the male fantasy kicks is watching women make love. So that's a fantasy So why should they be shocked at the reality of it? Well, there is this I don't think there is fearful of that because I think there is a justification when the fantasy is two women, the ultimate fantasy is "and they need me too.
When they don't need me And when the fantasy is removed when they don't need me I think what it really boils down to is you assume if women are lesbians, then they hate men. And that couldn't be further from the truth That's not why you're a lesbian. You don't hate men. And I think that sometimes men get threatened. Or women get threatened, "Well, what if they hit on me?
What if they," and that's pretty egotistical to think that we just go after anybody of the same sex. When the wild critics of -- the Pat Robertsons, to use the classic example, or the Jerry Falwell who will try to do something about it by meeting with you, when they say the simple term -- and many people would not -- it's unnatural.
It's just not natural. How do you respond to it, because it had to feel when you first felt feelings unnatural to you because you're growing up in this same society, right? When a boy feels attracted to a woman in this society don't feel unnatural, it feels normal. That's because that's embedded in all of our brains when we're growing up.
Yes, but it was embedded in you too. I was unclear about the feelings because it wasn't what I had been fed, this conditioning like the advertisements of a man and a woman laughing, holding hands, smoking a cigarette, eating a Certs. Hey, I should get money for that. But you know, you don't have all this stuff that says it's OK. You're conditioned to see a man and a woman. So you think -- but it didn't feel unnatural to me at all.
It's not unnatural to me. To Pat Robertson, it is. To me, some of the things he does is unnatural. I don't know how you can call yourself a spiritual, religious man and be so judgmental. I think that's really interesting to me that this whole thing started from Jesus being loving and teaching love and acceptance and tolerance and non-judgment. But you don't buy it when they say, "We love the person, hate the act. I don't buy it at all. I don't buy it either. The most natural thing in the world is falling in love with somebody.
I mean, to me, I didn't think for one second about gender. But you grew up, you were heterosexual, you thought you were heterosexual Until you met Ellen, you had not had a lesbian relationship before. So when you had the feeling, did it feel unnatural? And that was the thing that I think everybody had a problem with me when I whatever, as I say, came in, didn't come out, came into my love, it was the most natural thing in the world and exciting, and wonderful, and fabulous.
But weren't you surprised at yourself? Did you look in the mirror and say, "What's going on? But I didn't have any -- it didn't make me go, "Oh, gee, this is You never thought "something is wrong with me.
It actually righted me. For me, it was the most natural thing. Like, oh, wow, this is that thing when anybody says you're going to fall in love, and you'll know it when you do. And that was that for me.
So that was the most natural thing in the world. It became strange in the consequences of it. Because we have stories now of women in their fifties discovering this. People married with three kids discovering this.
And it's because they're -- I have to really qualify what Anne just said because she's the most evolved person I've ever met. She's my little Buddha. I mean, she is this evolved, amazing being. I didn't have that easy of a time. I was dating men and dating women I was going back and forth. And it was still, I was considered bisexual.
I was saying, "I still like men. This is just this girl. When you dated a man, how did you feel? I liked -- I have always liked men. I mean, I was boy crazy growing up. I was obsessed with boys and men. You weren't a tomboy then? I was a tomboy. But I still liked men. But when it came to sexuality, I was the only virgin in high school. I didn't have the desire to be with a man sexually. Did you wonder about that? No, I just thought I was a good girl, you know.
Really, you had that feeling? I actually had the song, which was really But anyway, so, it was not a natural thing for me. But when I was with a woman, it was. But it took me a long time because, I mean, Anne is just an amazing All right, when you were with men, it felt natural to you, didn't it?
Did you love a man? I was in relationships where I loved the man that I was with very much. It didn't feel like this was the -- it never felt It never felt like But you never felt "is that all there is?
And as for the unnaturalness, I was raised with a very religious upbringing. It should have been as unnatural to me sleeping with a man before I was married as it would be me being with a woman. I mean, there were so many rules and things that were laid out that were the rights and wrongs of how to be in a relationship.
So you know, that was unnatural in an argument between my mother and me too about moving in with a man before I was married to him. There are a lot of things that were laid down for me. We'll take a break and come back and ask if they really think programs like this "If These Walls Could Talk" help, or are they preaching to the choir.
It's our anniversary on Oscar night. So that's more important to us. So happy anniversary to us. That's all we care about. Let's talk about us for a while.
Have a great night. Do you think the program "If These Walls," programs like this, do you think they're just watched by people who are sympathetic? Or do you think those who differ -- think from you differently watch and learn? What do you think? I mean, I watch a lot of heterosexual love stories that I think are beautiful movies and beautiful stories. And just because I am gay doesn't say, "Oh, I can't relate to that as a man and a woman. But do you think it can help change people, Anne, people who might be thinking the other way?
We've evolved some way. Television must have had something to do with it. Film must have had something to do with it. The intent is not to change -- again, the intent is to bring familiarity. And what that familiarity means to me is when we start to understand that we're all based in the same human emotion.
We have the same emotion as any other couple. And that to me is what some of the people who have seen it have come to me and said like, "I get it. I'm starting to get it. You love the same way I love. You argue the same way I argue.
I can't relate to that whatsoever. So this couple, and the couple that I made a movie about, have the same emotion as any other straight couple. And that's the most I can hope for people to understand.
With all these strides, Ellen, have we tapped in at all to why I'm heterosexual and you're not. Do we know why? And I don't think Well, it matters because there's a great argument.
Can what you do affect -- if you were teachers, can you affect young girls to be interested in lesbianism who might not want to be? That's one of the arguments of the other side. But if you're teaching That you affect people. If you're teaching math, I don't know how that's going to influence somebody. What's that got to do with anything? I don't think teachers talk about their home life. And so that's a kind of crazy argument.
And there are more -- well, I don't even want to get into that. We don't have an answer as to why you are the way you are. We don't know that. It's like not knowing why we like bananas, and you don't like -- I like them and you don't.
I actually do like them. I like them too, but my son hates them. See, we're exactly the same. But we don't know why my little baby hates them. But the intent is never -- I mean, one of the things that you say, the intent is never to recruit anybody.
We just want to have our own -- enjoy Well, the other side thinks you are -- they think there is some sort of vast army conspiracy here. Yes, but that is a bunch of malarkey. For everybody to be gay, which of course would stop the planet from growing. That's not going to happen. I mean, it's just -- it's insane to think that, I mean, why would we want that? I mean, why can't we celebrate all of our differences, our diversity?
Why can't we embrace that? It's like how you are saying how you grew up in Brooklyn, having a melting pot of different types of people That's what the world is. I don't think God makes mistakes. We're all -- why are there white people and black people and brown people? At a lesbian bar they have not been to before, they are surprised and disappointed to see women apparently fulfilling traditional butch and femme roles. Amy asks Linda to dance but she refuses while her friends are still there.
The others soon leave and Linda stays behind and dances with Amy. Later, Amy gives Linda a ride home on her motorcycle and they kiss. Linda invites Amy to return the next day. The next day Linda and the others are arguing with a woman from the feminist group when Amy arrives.
Linda is embarrassed and is short with Amy who quickly leaves. Linda's friends tease her about Amy and question how they can be taken seriously as feminists if they associate with people like Amy.
They cannot understand why a woman would dress like a man when they have fought so hard to escape such stereotypical roles. Linda goes to Amy's house and apologizes. The next morning Linda sees a picture of Amy as a child, dressed like a boy.
She asks Amy if Amy is supposed to be the man and Linda the woman. Amy says no and accuses Linda of being afraid that people will know what she is if she is seen with Amy. Amy goes to Linda's house for dinner.
Linda urges her friends to give Amy a chance but an awkward evening deteriorates when Linda's friends criticize Amy and try to make her change her clothes.Sharon Stone On Craig Ferguson - They Went On One Date - 1/2 Appearances
Linda follows her home and tells her that she was never ashamed of Amy, but only of herself. They hope to get a sperm donation from Tom George Newbern and Arnold Mitchell Andersona gay couple, but when the men are reluctant to agree to stay out of the baby's life, the women decide not to go ahead.
Later, Kal tells Fran that she does not want to know the father of the baby and they agree to use an anonymous donor. They look for donors on the internet and find a company to use.
Going through endless profiles of potential donors, Kal gets upset that she herself cannot get Fran pregnant.